When we talk about instantaneous connection at a distance, this is the type connection we're talking about.
One of the ways of thinking about what's going on is with the idea of David Bohm’s implicate order … and a number of other proposals on how we might be able to account for this. But ultimately nobody really understands it yet at an ontological level.
WTB - I can't help but wonder, has anybody used the double slit experiment as a method of exploring PK (psychokinesis)?
Radin -- I'm doing that now, in the lab.
WTB - Really?
Radin - Yeah. I have an experiment using the equivalent of a double slit experiment, actually based on a Michelson interferometer, but with the same idea - to see what happens to the interference fringes when you have people meditating and imagining that their minds are within the interferometer. So I'm collecting data on that now.
WTB - So they're not actually trying to direct the photon or electron towards one or the other slit, but they're actually engaging the interferometer?
Radin - They are, in effect, trying to block one of the slits with their mind. If they do that, then the interference pattern will change. I don't expect the effect of mind will be the same as sticking your finger in front of one of the slits, but if there's any effect at all, then it should change the interference pattern.
WTB - When did you start this?
Radin -- I got a grant to do this last year, and at the beginning of this year I got the whole thing working. So the experiment is underway now.
WTB - Are you going to be using just individuals, or are you going to attempt to measure group influences as well?
Radin – I’m starting with experienced meditators, and then if it looks promising I'm going to start working with groups of meditators. The thing with groups is that, unless the groups are tightly coherent, just because you're using additional people that doesn't mean you'll get more bang for your buck. With people, at least at the mental level, the effects tend to add up and interfere like waves. So if you get some waves that begin to overlap and cancel each other out, you can effectively end up with nothing. Continued on page 5
